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I didn't realize you had a patch for this already.

Me too, I use KompoZer as well. Haha, You're probably the only other person besides me in the community that does. Take a look at my site if you want.

Hmm. At least you actually release your work, unlike *cough* rst *cough cough cough PHLEGM!!*

jigebren @ Dec 29 2009, 01:06 AM wrote: It has nothing to do with a real black color: instead of black, it could have been any color (as I said in a post above).

jigebren wrote:@urnemanden
Same sort of glitches in your files. Notice that when you use bicubic filter, it can create what is called 'Overshoot' (see wikipedia here), which can create unexpected black areas in the texture (I think you'll find them on the image below). And all these unexpected areas will be rendered transparent in the game.

i actually think a color like pink would be easier to work with than black. black is a "hard to see" color, you always have to "measure" it, instead of just observing with eyes.

I typically use pink ("magenta") as my transparent background color of choice in any kind of graphical work I do. Its not typically a color that people will use, and it stands out very well.

I did a Brightness +1 on some of the cars, because I saw this mistake too, but thanks for the reminder. Will bilinear do the job better?

Isn't that easier to make the patch detect when a car/track is original or not ? Maybe simply by checking the bmp size...

(Because you will never get any improvement simply by scaling an image up with an algorythm, the only way is to make a new one...)

Of course it is possible to scale textures and having a 3D result as good as the original, but as you said : "filesize*4"...

Sorry but I don't think I'm gonna use this patch if re-volt folder's size is growing so much for...nothing !

Anyway, good luck for this project

Aeon @ Dec 29 2009, 06:42 AM wrote:Its not typically a color that people will use, and it stands out very well.

Isn't that easier to make the patch detect when a car/track is original or not ? Maybe simply by checking the bmp size...
Instead of making 512*512 for the thousand of custom content there is all over the internet... (Because you will never get any improvement simply by scaling an image up with an algorythm, the only way is to make a new one...).

jigebren @ Dec 29 2009, 07:36 PM wrote: @human
Sorry, I think we have posted above at the same minute .

Another announcement:
I've released a complete pack of resized original (stock) textures. You can download it here.

Tell me what you think about it.
If you find artifacts, or stuffs like that, please specify the resolution you're running revolt at, and the filtering used in revolt display option.

jigebren wrote:

Of course it is possible to scale textures and having a 3D result as good as the original, but as you said : "filesize*4"...

I understand. The space taken by the original texture bmp goes from 52MB to 208MB (size*4), due to bmp's uncompressed format. But, sincerely, who really cares about 200MB on his harddrive today?

human wrote:I actually think a color like pink would be easier to work with than black. black is a "hard to see" color, you always have to "measure" it, instead of just observing with eyes.

jigebren @ Dec 29 2009, 07:36 PM wrote: Another announcement:
I've released a complete pack of resized original (stock) textures. You can download it here.

zagames @ Jan 1 2010, 08:49 PM wrote:Hey jig, I have a question for you.  Would like to work on a complete RV engine rebuild?  We've started a project over at RV Devs to work on this daunting task.  Any help would be appreciated.  Check it out sometime.  Thanks,
Zach

Good job! You wrote the resize tool exactly how I wanted you to. smile.gif

(Seperating the black pixels into a different process.)

I just didn't know how to do this in any image editor in an automated fashion.

Rick Brewster wrote: "Smooth" is just a bilinear resampling (triangle filter).

In order to do the math correctly, however, you need to work with the pixel centers. Basically, add 0.5 to the dstX/dstY, then translate to the srcX/srcY, then subtract 0.5. Otherwise you'll have all sorts of confusing issues with "black borders" and no amount of fudging or kludges will really fix it all.

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for &#40;int dstY = 0; dstY < dstHeight; ++dstY&#41;
{
    double srcY = &#40;&#40;&#40;dstY + 0.5&#41; * srcHeight&#41; / dstHeight&#41; - 0.5;
    for &#40;int dstX = 0; dstX < dstWidth; ++dstX&#41;
    {
        double srcX = &#40;&#40;&#40;dstX + 0.5&#41; * srcWidth&#41; / dstWidth&#41; - 0.5;
        ... normal bilinear sampling kernel goes here ...
    }
}

Also, the Move Selected Pixels tool has some fixes coming in v3.5.2. So does Image->Resize.

As far as automation or batch processing, that isn't currently possible with Paint.NET.

Hey jig, I am not sure whether this might help you or not, but I just got a reply from Rick Brewster:

Jig is saying: wrote:I some of you have tested my 512 textures pack, I think there is a problem with skymaps. I have to check out if my patch allows 512x512 skymaps, as it seems it doesn't.
Urnemanden, perhaps that the reason why you talked to me about missing resized skymaps, isn't it?

Weirdly enough your patch is also saving me from sound lagg that occurs when the FPS in-game is below 70 on my laptop. I just drove my old track, Bone Island (24-75 FPS), without any trouble at all.

ive recently remade some 512x512 textures for my zonda and OMG its amazing, really good job here, amazing what can be done... great job so far

urnemanden @ Jan 2 2010, 05:22 PM wrote: Is it normal that the patched Re-Volt is crashing when loading a track that isn't 512 dimensions?

krisss @ Jan 2 2010, 06:06 PM wrote: I say: " Thanks, jigebren!!!"
Patch is wonderful and I have made Midnight-volt (my newest track ) for this patch...
Download track clicking here!

urnemanden wrote:Is it normal that the patched Re-Volt is crashing when loading a track that isn't 512 dimensions?

EDIT: Perfect! It works just fine on my lappy. biggrin.gif

krisss wrote:I say: " Thanks, jigebren!!!"
Patch is wonderful and I have made Midnight-volt (my newest track smile.gif) for this patch...

Aeon wrote:I forgot all about sky maps. Those would be great to have resized!

Jig wondered: wrote:

Jig Quoted me: wrote:Is it normal that the patched Re-Volt is crashing when loading a track that isn't 512 dimensions?

EDIT: Perfect! It works just fine on my lappy.

Urnemanden, does it means there is no crash problem anymore?

Me in a previous post wrote: - Level Name: Toys in the hood 1 (Nhood1)
- Re-Volt Version: 1.10 (0916)
- 512 Patch Version: Crashes on 512Patch 0.3 & 0.4 Alpha
- Crash occurs: While loading. Exactly while the loading bar is showing "Nhood1.fin"
- Operating system: Windows Vista Home Basic 64bit
- Commands added: -sli

urnemanden @ Jan 2 2010, 05:41 PM wrote:- Level Name: Toys in the hood 1 (Nhood1)
- Re-Volt Version: 1.10 (0916)
- 512 Patch Version: Crashes on 512Patch 0.3 & 0.4 Alpha
- Crash occurs: While loading. Exactly while the loading bar is showing "Nhood1.fin"
- Operating system: Windows Vista Home Basic 64bit
- Commands added: -sli

urnemanden @ Jan 3 2010, 01:04 AM wrote:That sounds like an interesting title. =)

1 question more/bug to report: It seems like the Re-Volt 512patch doesn't save the screen resolution anymore. It still do save amount of laps, latest selected car and track, tho.

jigebren @ Dec 29 2009, 01:06 AM wrote: Great to see another KompoZer user. Anyway, your site looks much more elaborated than mine (but I'm a really beginner in HTML and all that stuff )

Aeon wrote:Is that a resize or a redraw of Dust Mite?

zagames @ Jan 3 2010, 08:01 AM wrote: I make plenty of websites, like this one for my dad (still a WIP): http://zackattackgames.com/Up-Tyte/

The only tools I use include Notepad(ALL the coding), MSPaint(the general image designs), and a tiny bit of photoshop(special effects/shading). Not to brag or anything...

Jig wrote:Try to remember if '1280x960x16' correspond precisely to a setting that you have already used before.
Also, you could check the values set in the registry (for winXP it is located in 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Acclaim\Re-Volt\1.0').
And I've never touched Vista in my life, but perhap you've set parameters that were lost when modifying the exe, and that need to be re-applied. Check twice the 'compatibility mode', maybe test with “Run this program as an administrator”.

urnemanden @ Jan 3 2010, 05:31 PM wrote:

Jig wrote:Try to remember if '1280x960x16' correspond precisely to a setting that you have already used before.
Also, you could check the values set in the registry (for winXP it is located in 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Acclaim\Re-Volt\1.0').
And I've never touched Vista in my life, but perhap you've set parameters that were lost when modifying the exe, and that need to be re-applied. Check twice the 'compatibility mode', maybe test with “Run this program as an administrator”.

Do you mean that since Re-Volt is 4:3, it won't save the settings because the screen resolution I've chosen is a stretch-out of the existing resolutions, Re-Volt is compatible with?

The registry files is placed the same place on Vista as on XP in general, but because I am on a 64-bit operating system, my registry files is placed at "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Acclaim\Re-Volt\1.0". The settings in there is the same as they are when I play without the 512patch.

I also just tried out all custom tracks after each other in ther 512patch, but when I reached Nhood1 (512), Re-Volt crashed at loading the nhood1.fin again. It seems like the stock tracks is rather unstable with this patched version of Re-Volt to me - unstable with 256x256 textures, less unstable using 512x512 textures..

urnemanden @ Jan 3 2010, 05:31 PM wrote:

Jig wrote:Try to remember if '1280x960x16' correspond precisely to a setting that you have already used before.

Do you mean that since Re-Volt is 4:3, it won't save the settings because the screen resolution I've chosen is a stretch-out of the existing resolutions, Re-Volt is compatible with?

 -res 800 600 32 -window

Jig wrote: If I understand for now:
- you have '1280x1024x32' (good values) in the registry.
- everytime you start patched revolt it uses '1280x960x16' (bad value)
- if you set the good value in revolt interface, you can play with this good values (you're sure of this?)
- but if you restart revolt, it uses back the bad values
- and it don't do that with unpatched revolt
Is that right?

human @ Jan 9 2010, 05:54 PM wrote:jiggie,
some questions:
i would like to try the patch, is it the most recent version that is downloadable from your site?

also, if i patch the exe, is there a way back? or is it only reinstalling if something doesnt work?

what will i see on the custom tracks that have currently 256 textures?